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Joe Roberts's avatar

Whatever the case or story may be, I have never bought that they made it there and back in that tinfoil/duct tape rattle trap. I dubbed it Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. No way in hell they flew in that thing. It looks like a 3rd grade science project gone wrong.

Radio Far Side's avatar

Ha! Spot on, mate! And I'd put more trust in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang than that thing. As the saying goes, a camel is a horse designed by committee. See Exhibit A.

Joe Roberts's avatar

Lol. Could you imagine being presented with that before your flight? I don't think so. There's just no way. They had to have been laughing their asses off at the gullibility of the American public.

Radio Far Side's avatar

As P.T. Barnum said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." Don't know if you've ever seen the Russian version, but I'd put my grandkids in that one. The Grumman version, though, I'd save for my enemies.

Joe Roberts's avatar

I do agree that if they did indeed touch down on the moon it was not in that thing. Nor would they ever design and build such a foolish looking contraption.

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Radio Far Side's avatar

Nice link, thanks! I've spent a lot of time reviewing photos and video, applying the technical skills I have. There is too much missing context that leaves a lot of ambiguity in terms of direct measurements of reflectivity, incidence angles, terrain topography, and focal lengths. Good arguments can be made both ways. The in situ records aren't detailed enough to make a final call on a lot of issues with the photo/video record. I can, however, say without a doubt that missing stars is NOT an issue. Iris settings, high contrast ratios and focal lengths rule this out.

Cheers!