Even paranoid people have real enemies, as the old saying goes. My guess is that, yes, there are evil doers who just wanted to make money and didn't care about the damage they were doing to others. You know, like the pharmaceutical executives and their lacky running dogs in all our various institutions who knew mRNA injections were dangerous and didn't work as they claimed. Then, you have the people who are just dumb and can't figure anything out on their own. Then, there are those who know something or some policy is dangerous but go along because they're sold their souls for cash/career growth, etc. Think of most all the msm and academics. Then there are those who are servile and believe anything anyone in authority tells them and never question them. This group is made up of socialists of various types. (The Party is never wrong and The Leaders are benevolent and high-minded defenders of the proletariat/working class/poor, etc.).
The eugenicists having been saying for centuries (since Malthus) that are too many people on earth and there needs to be a "culling" to reduce populations to 4 billion, or 2 billion, or 1 billion or 500 million, ..... or something. My guess is this, which you so accurately explain, is just another tool in the box to eliminate excess populations through war, pestilence, disease, or infertility.
You put it succinctly and eloquently. I view "authority" like a crooked mechanic--he fixes the problem you came in for, and breaks something else to be sure you come back. The evidence taken in total tells me there's a global and on-going effort to cull the herd, and I believe the published population numbers are inflated to promote the "overcrowding" Malthusian narradigm. I always go back to Tim Burton's "Batman": each product individually is benign, but in combination they ensure we all die once we're no longer needed.
If I remember correctly (it was around 50 years ago that I read this information) the Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa) was a sponsor of some of the studies that showed the addition of flouride in municipal water supplies would reduce cavities. As luck would have it a great problem for Alcoa was what to do with all of the excess sodium flouride that they were unable to dispose of. Out of the goodness of their corporate heart they agreed to sell it to municipal water supplies all over the United States. The same water departments that had recently received the recommendation to add flouride to their drinking water to improve the health of their customers. A very fortunate set of circumstances for them and the government. A toxic substance turned into a public health benefit! If your congressman and the NIH say it's good for you then that should be good enough. I wonder why the silly people in Utah and Florida banned it from their drinking water.
Once sodium fluoride is in the water, the masses become too stupid to put the facts together. Quite convenient. I remember the same information regarding Alcoa sponsorship of many studies. I tried to find that info to link in, but it's well buried. If I track it down, I will certainly update the FarSiders.
Supporting your thesis, check out these additional ‘beneficial’ corporate/gov’t programs all to improve our natural environment: Chem Trails, Ethanol, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Red Die 40, the infamous Covid Shot, Lead Teeth Fillings, Glyphosate, Plastic in lieu of hemp and other natural substances, adulterated Cigarette Tobacco etc, etc etc…..
Excellent points all. The greenies are always hollering about "renewables," yet they ignore the obvious. By the bye, a lot of food comes wrapped in banana leaves in Indonesia. They make great doilies and plate liners, too.
Well, I had been drinking utility grade water for much of my life--turn on the tap, fill the glass and drink it down. Never much thought about what was hidden among those H2O molecules. When I moved to my current location about 15 years ago, the meter and hook up for the area SUD was already there, so naturally, I paid the required fee, and again just turned on the tap. I'm in one of the few places in Texas that isn't on top of a regional aquifer, wells are often spotty and the one I had drilled gives me some tasty water that kills most anything I water with it. Dissolved solids are off the chart, making it extremely hard. Then I ran some of the utility water through a distiller, and the residue left behind was an awful, brown sticky gunk, so from then on I only drink bottled water which according to the label is purified through reverse osmosis with a little calcium chloride and sodium bicarbonate added for ??. Been thinking that putting a reverse osmosis contraption on the well water might be a viable solution, but isn't near the top of the priority list just yet. As for toothpaste, I still use the stuff I grew up with--Colgate. I buy the variety that has baking soda, and yes, I suspect fluoride. The teeth are close to 80 years old now, and while a few are now gone, what is left in my mouth are what I was born with. Now that mental fog is another thing altogether, but at my age, I don't think about it much.
I highly recommend the Berkey filters. You can get them in a variety of sizes, along with special filters for chlorine and fluoride. Great for drinking and cooking, though you are still exposed through your skin when you shower. For brushing, I use pure baking soda. The taste takes a bit of getting used to, but it actually repairs cavities and damaged enamel. If you look on your tube of Colgate, you'll see a warning not to swallow it, and call the poison hotline if you do. That should tell you something. Having made it to your 80s, you've gone through the worst damage you're likely to get, but the info would be tremendously valuable to the young'uns.
In any case, I'm not surprised your plants died. Most additives to public water are salts, and that changes both the pH of the soil and burns the roots. Here in Jakarta, the public water is barely filtered river water, and the silt is constantly gumming up the works. We have a 300-gallon tank on the roof that needs to be drained and cleaned once a year to remove the accumulated sediment. When I first came here, I asked a friend if I could drink the tap water. "Sure, if you want to die," was the response.
Actually. it was the well water that was so toxic to some plants, but not all of them. I don't use it in the garden anymore, but do use it to supplement the rain water accumulation in the dirt tanks which are the primary water for the livestock. Also collect rain water from off of the house roof--one inch equals about 700 gallons, and I have a big 3000 gallon storage tank I pump the collection tanks (6 -275 gallon ICB tanks) into and use it for much of the garden. We've had a good month for rain, so the old garden is looking good, and feeding the various pests nicely. Keeping the fingers crossed that our 3 year drought has broken, but then this is Texas, and one never knows what the good lord has planned.
As Clayton Williams said years ago, Texas weather is like rape. It's inevitable, so just lay back and enjoy it.
If your ground water is that toxic, you've either got some unusual geography around you, or you're getting chemical leeching from industry or herbicides. Either way, you probably don't want to drink too much of it. Your garden sounds about like mine--keeps the local infestations fat and sassy.
Biggest problem with the ground water under the ranch is an astronomical load of "dissolved solids" Way off the charts, and it makes the water extremely hard. Neighbor claims he drinks it all the time, but I have no idea what his arteries look like. Water report didn't show much of a toxin load, but yes, the water is rather shallow--35 to 54 feet down so surface contamination could be a problem except there aren't very many folks around me doing big AG type farming. Mostly just cow and goat poop being put on the ground. And the aquifer doesn't have a big areal extent. another attempt at a well on the ranch was a duster. It's possible that the heavy dissolved solids load is not from the water itself, but the fact that the well driller took the hole down to a hundred feet (for storage he said) and most of the material below the wet zone is a gray marl of some sort. I suppose, being a geologist once upon a time, I should be able to figure all that out. But then, why bother.
LOL Why bother indeed. Definitely sounds like a geology issue. Lots of soft, porous material leeching into the water table. Filtration is the obvious answer. You wouldn't believe the color of my filters after three months with Houston water. Here in Jakarta, they turn black in three months. There are times we actually get red sludge out of the spigot. Ah the joy of it all.
The National Toxicology Program did a long-term study and could find no harm resulting from water fluoridation at the recommended concentration. The researchers evidently weren't looking for any benefit, so didn't mention that aspect in the report except to say in the opening sentence "...the use of fluoride has been a successful public health initiative for reducing dental cavities and improving general oral health of adults and children." I'd like to see the evidence if that is so, but it may be difficult to determine what part of supposed fluoridation benefit results from water fluoridation as compared to toothpaste fluoridation. It seems to me little of the fluoride actually touches the teeth when we drink the water, and the scientists doing the study probably know this, which is why they wanted to leave the impression it doesn't matter, in that first sentence.
Anyway, I agree with your objection to adding sodium fluoride to municipal water. I use baking soda to brush my teeth, and our well water is pretty good, I think.
Where I grew up in Kansas some calcium fluoride occurs in well water, but one can have too much of that good thing. I had a girlfriend who drank well water while growing up on her parents' farm, and her teeth were permanently stained from it. Was that from the water washing over her teeth as she drank it, or was it more of a systemic thing, and her bones would look different than normal bones, if we could see them?
The brown staining is common where the water contains a significant amount of iron. Fe ions tend to bind to negative charges too, which is how electroplating works. Regardless of the source, it's best to filter water for particulates and bacteria. On the farm, all the pots and pans and showers had calcium scale on them. Easily removes with vinegar, but for drinking water it's best to reduce the mineral content. In 3rd grade, I broke my arm. Due to excessive amounts of calcium in me, a cyst formed on the break, and I had to have that removed a year later. Bone spurs are another joy of excess calcium. On the whole, though, I would rather drink unfiltered well water than the chemical soup in public supplies.
Actually, the girl's teeth stains weren't brown; as I recall, they were more of a chalky color, in patches. I never asked her about it, but I later learned this staining occurs before the secondary teeth erupt.
I agree with you on filtering. We have a sand filter at the wellhouse and another that filters the refrigerator water and ice. We drank straight well water for about 25 years before we got those filters. I can't tell any difference in the taste, but I believe the filters do grab some bad stuff.
A friend says our well water tastes like dirt; he prefers the nasty city water!
Saw this in rural Texas, as well. Kids from the ranches had stained teeth. Later, after years of city water, we switched to purified water 6 years ago. But early years, did grow up with well water, thank goodness!
Central Texas well water is basically liquid limestone. Good for teeth, tastes like licking rocks, can't work up a lather in the shower no matter how hard you scrub. On the plus side, you get armored teeth and bones. Just get plenty of collagen to keep the joints lubed. Clean water, clean living.
Fluorides destroys the brain-critical thinking is the greatest enemy of the rulers-city of London policies behind all the evil in the world. Profit of poison, capture regulatory policies and have the triad of evil in control-Rothchild/Rockefeller. Control food (humanity), energy (nation states) money supply control the world-New World Ordr driven by Drumpf!
As George Carlin noted, the rulers of this planet don't want educated, self-reliant subjects. In Tim Burton's "Batman," the Joker didn't poison people with one vector. Instead, different chemicals in different products combined for the lethal blow. That's how it all works.
Even paranoid people have real enemies, as the old saying goes. My guess is that, yes, there are evil doers who just wanted to make money and didn't care about the damage they were doing to others. You know, like the pharmaceutical executives and their lacky running dogs in all our various institutions who knew mRNA injections were dangerous and didn't work as they claimed. Then, you have the people who are just dumb and can't figure anything out on their own. Then, there are those who know something or some policy is dangerous but go along because they're sold their souls for cash/career growth, etc. Think of most all the msm and academics. Then there are those who are servile and believe anything anyone in authority tells them and never question them. This group is made up of socialists of various types. (The Party is never wrong and The Leaders are benevolent and high-minded defenders of the proletariat/working class/poor, etc.).
The eugenicists having been saying for centuries (since Malthus) that are too many people on earth and there needs to be a "culling" to reduce populations to 4 billion, or 2 billion, or 1 billion or 500 million, ..... or something. My guess is this, which you so accurately explain, is just another tool in the box to eliminate excess populations through war, pestilence, disease, or infertility.
You put it succinctly and eloquently. I view "authority" like a crooked mechanic--he fixes the problem you came in for, and breaks something else to be sure you come back. The evidence taken in total tells me there's a global and on-going effort to cull the herd, and I believe the published population numbers are inflated to promote the "overcrowding" Malthusian narradigm. I always go back to Tim Burton's "Batman": each product individually is benign, but in combination they ensure we all die once we're no longer needed.
If I remember correctly (it was around 50 years ago that I read this information) the Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa) was a sponsor of some of the studies that showed the addition of flouride in municipal water supplies would reduce cavities. As luck would have it a great problem for Alcoa was what to do with all of the excess sodium flouride that they were unable to dispose of. Out of the goodness of their corporate heart they agreed to sell it to municipal water supplies all over the United States. The same water departments that had recently received the recommendation to add flouride to their drinking water to improve the health of their customers. A very fortunate set of circumstances for them and the government. A toxic substance turned into a public health benefit! If your congressman and the NIH say it's good for you then that should be good enough. I wonder why the silly people in Utah and Florida banned it from their drinking water.
Once sodium fluoride is in the water, the masses become too stupid to put the facts together. Quite convenient. I remember the same information regarding Alcoa sponsorship of many studies. I tried to find that info to link in, but it's well buried. If I track it down, I will certainly update the FarSiders.
Supporting your thesis, check out these additional ‘beneficial’ corporate/gov’t programs all to improve our natural environment: Chem Trails, Ethanol, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Red Die 40, the infamous Covid Shot, Lead Teeth Fillings, Glyphosate, Plastic in lieu of hemp and other natural substances, adulterated Cigarette Tobacco etc, etc etc…..
Excellent points all. The greenies are always hollering about "renewables," yet they ignore the obvious. By the bye, a lot of food comes wrapped in banana leaves in Indonesia. They make great doilies and plate liners, too.
Well, I had been drinking utility grade water for much of my life--turn on the tap, fill the glass and drink it down. Never much thought about what was hidden among those H2O molecules. When I moved to my current location about 15 years ago, the meter and hook up for the area SUD was already there, so naturally, I paid the required fee, and again just turned on the tap. I'm in one of the few places in Texas that isn't on top of a regional aquifer, wells are often spotty and the one I had drilled gives me some tasty water that kills most anything I water with it. Dissolved solids are off the chart, making it extremely hard. Then I ran some of the utility water through a distiller, and the residue left behind was an awful, brown sticky gunk, so from then on I only drink bottled water which according to the label is purified through reverse osmosis with a little calcium chloride and sodium bicarbonate added for ??. Been thinking that putting a reverse osmosis contraption on the well water might be a viable solution, but isn't near the top of the priority list just yet. As for toothpaste, I still use the stuff I grew up with--Colgate. I buy the variety that has baking soda, and yes, I suspect fluoride. The teeth are close to 80 years old now, and while a few are now gone, what is left in my mouth are what I was born with. Now that mental fog is another thing altogether, but at my age, I don't think about it much.
I highly recommend the Berkey filters. You can get them in a variety of sizes, along with special filters for chlorine and fluoride. Great for drinking and cooking, though you are still exposed through your skin when you shower. For brushing, I use pure baking soda. The taste takes a bit of getting used to, but it actually repairs cavities and damaged enamel. If you look on your tube of Colgate, you'll see a warning not to swallow it, and call the poison hotline if you do. That should tell you something. Having made it to your 80s, you've gone through the worst damage you're likely to get, but the info would be tremendously valuable to the young'uns.
In any case, I'm not surprised your plants died. Most additives to public water are salts, and that changes both the pH of the soil and burns the roots. Here in Jakarta, the public water is barely filtered river water, and the silt is constantly gumming up the works. We have a 300-gallon tank on the roof that needs to be drained and cleaned once a year to remove the accumulated sediment. When I first came here, I asked a friend if I could drink the tap water. "Sure, if you want to die," was the response.
Actually. it was the well water that was so toxic to some plants, but not all of them. I don't use it in the garden anymore, but do use it to supplement the rain water accumulation in the dirt tanks which are the primary water for the livestock. Also collect rain water from off of the house roof--one inch equals about 700 gallons, and I have a big 3000 gallon storage tank I pump the collection tanks (6 -275 gallon ICB tanks) into and use it for much of the garden. We've had a good month for rain, so the old garden is looking good, and feeding the various pests nicely. Keeping the fingers crossed that our 3 year drought has broken, but then this is Texas, and one never knows what the good lord has planned.
As Clayton Williams said years ago, Texas weather is like rape. It's inevitable, so just lay back and enjoy it.
If your ground water is that toxic, you've either got some unusual geography around you, or you're getting chemical leeching from industry or herbicides. Either way, you probably don't want to drink too much of it. Your garden sounds about like mine--keeps the local infestations fat and sassy.
Biggest problem with the ground water under the ranch is an astronomical load of "dissolved solids" Way off the charts, and it makes the water extremely hard. Neighbor claims he drinks it all the time, but I have no idea what his arteries look like. Water report didn't show much of a toxin load, but yes, the water is rather shallow--35 to 54 feet down so surface contamination could be a problem except there aren't very many folks around me doing big AG type farming. Mostly just cow and goat poop being put on the ground. And the aquifer doesn't have a big areal extent. another attempt at a well on the ranch was a duster. It's possible that the heavy dissolved solids load is not from the water itself, but the fact that the well driller took the hole down to a hundred feet (for storage he said) and most of the material below the wet zone is a gray marl of some sort. I suppose, being a geologist once upon a time, I should be able to figure all that out. But then, why bother.
LOL Why bother indeed. Definitely sounds like a geology issue. Lots of soft, porous material leeching into the water table. Filtration is the obvious answer. You wouldn't believe the color of my filters after three months with Houston water. Here in Jakarta, they turn black in three months. There are times we actually get red sludge out of the spigot. Ah the joy of it all.
https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/research/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride
The National Toxicology Program did a long-term study and could find no harm resulting from water fluoridation at the recommended concentration. The researchers evidently weren't looking for any benefit, so didn't mention that aspect in the report except to say in the opening sentence "...the use of fluoride has been a successful public health initiative for reducing dental cavities and improving general oral health of adults and children." I'd like to see the evidence if that is so, but it may be difficult to determine what part of supposed fluoridation benefit results from water fluoridation as compared to toothpaste fluoridation. It seems to me little of the fluoride actually touches the teeth when we drink the water, and the scientists doing the study probably know this, which is why they wanted to leave the impression it doesn't matter, in that first sentence.
Anyway, I agree with your objection to adding sodium fluoride to municipal water. I use baking soda to brush my teeth, and our well water is pretty good, I think.
Where I grew up in Kansas some calcium fluoride occurs in well water, but one can have too much of that good thing. I had a girlfriend who drank well water while growing up on her parents' farm, and her teeth were permanently stained from it. Was that from the water washing over her teeth as she drank it, or was it more of a systemic thing, and her bones would look different than normal bones, if we could see them?
The brown staining is common where the water contains a significant amount of iron. Fe ions tend to bind to negative charges too, which is how electroplating works. Regardless of the source, it's best to filter water for particulates and bacteria. On the farm, all the pots and pans and showers had calcium scale on them. Easily removes with vinegar, but for drinking water it's best to reduce the mineral content. In 3rd grade, I broke my arm. Due to excessive amounts of calcium in me, a cyst formed on the break, and I had to have that removed a year later. Bone spurs are another joy of excess calcium. On the whole, though, I would rather drink unfiltered well water than the chemical soup in public supplies.
Actually, the girl's teeth stains weren't brown; as I recall, they were more of a chalky color, in patches. I never asked her about it, but I later learned this staining occurs before the secondary teeth erupt.
I agree with you on filtering. We have a sand filter at the wellhouse and another that filters the refrigerator water and ice. We drank straight well water for about 25 years before we got those filters. I can't tell any difference in the taste, but I believe the filters do grab some bad stuff.
A friend says our well water tastes like dirt; he prefers the nasty city water!
Saw this in rural Texas, as well. Kids from the ranches had stained teeth. Later, after years of city water, we switched to purified water 6 years ago. But early years, did grow up with well water, thank goodness!
Central Texas well water is basically liquid limestone. Good for teeth, tastes like licking rocks, can't work up a lather in the shower no matter how hard you scrub. On the plus side, you get armored teeth and bones. Just get plenty of collagen to keep the joints lubed. Clean water, clean living.
Fried pig skins have lots of collagen and they're cheaper than supplements.
Fluorides destroys the brain-critical thinking is the greatest enemy of the rulers-city of London policies behind all the evil in the world. Profit of poison, capture regulatory policies and have the triad of evil in control-Rothchild/Rockefeller. Control food (humanity), energy (nation states) money supply control the world-New World Ordr driven by Drumpf!
As George Carlin noted, the rulers of this planet don't want educated, self-reliant subjects. In Tim Burton's "Batman," the Joker didn't poison people with one vector. Instead, different chemicals in different products combined for the lethal blow. That's how it all works.