Great article and very well researched. Kudos! I've always thought the lack of gravity on the long voyage to Mars would doom the mission. Sure, you can have counter-rotating discs for centrifugal gravity, but to simulate Earth's gravity all the way, all the time, for all the crew? And what about if you land on Mars? You are stuck there at less than 1/2 Earth's gravity. This would fuck up human cardiovascular systems big time. Astronauts who spend a year on the ISS say it takes them 2 years back on Earth to recover. It's like a diver going deep into the ocean. You can't stay down there too long or come up too fast.
The big reason is, "Why go to Mars?" The planet has nothing to offer humanity.
I already live on the Martian Day of 24 hours and 40 minutes. I always have. I hate alarm clocks. Left to my own devices, I stay up an hour "later" every night and then day. I've tried it. We do have weak eyes. Do monkeys wear sunglasses?
Being from Mars also explains Rufus' red hair (and my own and my son's.)
Thanks for finding the Rock Hudson TV series of the Martian Chronicles. I've been looking for it for years. Ray Bradbury's book is fantastic. I reread it three years ago.
Ray Bradbury and Star Trek have been life-long favorites. As a space nerd, I've read every sci-fi novel and watched every film/show from Verne to Bear. I would do almost anything to stand on the rim of Valles Marineris...except give up my entire life right here on Terra Firma.
Humans have always had a profit motive to explore, which makes me think there is something to be gained from a trip to Mars other than altruistic "spreading the seeds". Personally, I believe there is at minimum knowledge of ancient civilizations and possibly ancient technology dangling the carrot.
The late Lloyd Pye made a heck of a case for humans being non-terrestrial in origin. My astrophyics professor back in the mid-80s did too. Everything about human physiology says we are not evolved apes, and that we are well suited for living on Mars. Most of our problems, like back and joint pain comes from being ill-adjusted to Earth gravity.
I'm going to go along with Ayya Khema who thought that it was a waste of time to think about such things. It would be best that humanity leaves the rest of the universe alone while we're still unable to do much positive here on this planet. Life expectancies falling, fertility falling, world population falling. It would make a lot more sense to make a plan to eliminate all of the people who want us to go to mars. Seems they're the same people who steal from us reduce our liberties and shorten our lives and reduce our fertility. The existing laws say that it would be justifiable homicide to kill them all, but since they own the governments anybody carrying out these reasonable sentences would likely be bothered by the ones who still survive and the sycophant doofuses who haven't found anything better to do in life than to force us to obey their immoral and illegal rules in exchange for a salary and the promis of a retirement they won't see because their jabs will have them dying before the age of retirement.
I'm inclined to agree with you, but for one point, and that is that things like the famous photo "Earthrise" from Apollo 8 tend to pull humans out of their navels and remind them that there are much bigger perspectives.
Humanity is being engineered by whomever/whatever for a purpose we are not allowed to know. Non-disclosure is itself a crime against humanity, since it deprives us of vital information concerning our present and future.
We, as a species, have a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. We have been so battered and bruised by abusive overlords that many folks actually sympathize with them. Our current technology allows us to have a global symposium on matters like this, but unfortunately, most folks can't or won't see beyond tomorrow's commute to the office.
earthrise was proven to be a hoax a long time ago. Perhaps we are here because the director(s) thought that we needed to get to where we could figure it out while being denied "to know".
Who are you to criticize the directors? And in this case I'm talking about the ones who made everything, not the reptilians who shapeshift under their robes. Talkin' bout the ones who made them and us.
HFM - That's part of what's being hidden from us. I like Lloyd Pye's presentation, "Everything You Know Is Wrong". Sums it all up nice and tidy, but still doesn't answer "who". Joseph Farrell's book, "Cosmic War" is fascinating and offers a concise look at all the mysteries, myths and evidence we have to date. Well worth a read.
As for Earthrise, the image is a single frame from a 16mm film that is genuine, though can't swear to who/what shot it. The image has been enhanced and manipulated so many times over the years that it hardly resembles the original frame.
just going by my faulty memory but I think I saw (when the internet was young) that they'd doctored the shape of the image and that this shape is what makes us think it's an earth rise. So entirely a fraud. I bet that where you live that everybody will eat even as the americans and perhaps the western europeans are eating each other.
Part of the thinking that led me to set up housekeeping here was a year-round growing season and enough seafood to choke a horse. There's also a lot of resourceful folks who still have life skills and adhere to traditional gender roles. The one positive for the West is that all the folks who surrendered these things to political ideology will be gone in 1-2 months, after the bottom falls out.
As for the Earthrise image, the one that most people think of was altered to enhance/add colors, cropped to make the Earth appear larger, and interpolated to clean up grain and make it higher resolution. Yes, it's essentially a fake, since you'd never see that sight in real life. In the original 16mm film, the Earth is quite small. I believe the used a 50mm lens that approximates the huma field of view. Also, the colors are much paler or washed out by overexposure.
NASA has a long history of futzing with images to "enhance" public interest. Mars is actually much like the Arizona desert with a gray sky, not red and ruddy. Neptune is not deep blue. Jupiter's and Saturn's belts are very faint. It goes on and on. Basically, if NASA told you what time it was, you should check you watch to be sure they aren't lying.
nasa is a typical gov't program. A small percentage of the money it steals from fools who think paying taxes is a way to be "tranquil" goes to fake doing what they said, a lot more goes to making sure that the "clever" functionaries who "get it" can greast their own palms and indulge their psychopathies, the 90% which remains goes straight to the high level psychopaths who own all of the world's governments. They are not foolish with their ill gotten gains, they reinvest most of it into making sure that future generations if there are any will be brainwashed enough to continue believing that gov't is good and that they will be "tranquil" if they give all of their money over to the high level psychopaths. But you surely know that and have written that elsewhere.
We are a long way from the widespread non-compliance which is the only way to stop this.
I personally have not forgotten the Voyagers. In fact, I noted just recently that NASA shut down yet another suite of instruments on V2 to conserve dwindling power. I've followed the Voyagers for 50 years (including development time), especially the data when passing through the heliopause and into interstellar space. Voyager 1 is also the fastest moving object ever created by humans, at 17km/s, or 38,000 mph. A venerable record, even without the reams of data it has returned. They are amazing craft, and maybe one day humans will pick one up and put it in the Martian Smithsonian.
Most of the drive to go to the moon is based on the profits of the MICIMATT complex members that push us into continual wars. It is nothing but extraterrestrial hegemony.
the only successful space endeavor is area 51-secret hollywood sucking machine for the great illusion of USSA superiority. As a hotshot courier spending many hours waiting to deliver materials to NASA space center houston, just a big sucking machine of tax dollars for control of the empire. If youn believe theyput a man a moon I got a bridge to sell to you-a great opportunity to get rich!
MK - I spent many hours at the Manned Space Center (I refuse to use LBJ's name), both as a kid, and later shooting news and documentaries. It is a colossal waste of money, as all gummint projects are.
One perfect example is the SLA launcher. They have shot through billions of dollars for something that is years behind schedule and doesn't work as advertised. SpaceX has done far more, with far less, far faster. That shows the huge gap between private enterprise and bureaucratic make-work.
As for the Apollo program, I'm torn. I've actually had my hand in a glovebox holding moonrocks. I've settled on the opinion that the show we saw was complete bullshit, but something happened that we are not privy to. Part of the proof will eventually come when a private third party lands near an Apollo site and shows us some ground truth. Until then, skepticism is duly applied.
For one thing, heat cannot be exchanged with the environment in a pure vacuum. That's why Thermos works. For another thing, the skin of the LM was essentially a mylar balloon, which I don't buy. Also, the fuel used on the LM was Aerozine 50, which spews highly toxic chemicals in the exhaust.
Excellent post about space travel. I recently read an article by a physicist named Giles on Lew Rockwell's site about the many challenges about space travel and colonization of Mars, and anywhere else. Very much like yours, he reviewed the technology we have now will have to be greatly improved to even be vaguely possible. One the the greatest hurdles is the enormous distances involved just to Mars, let alone anything farther. In the Star Trek series by Gene Rodenberry they had overcome this with "Warp Factor 10" technology which allowed ships to travel at gargantuanly faster speeds and "The Expanse" series they had something similar but I don't recall what they called it.
I am always bored when any politician or a dreamer like Musk talks about space travel and Mars colonization. It is good for academics to study and to continue sending unmanned flights out to the expanse and we should certainly do it. But I'm much more concerned about earth-bound problems first and foremost.
DH- I'm all for robotic exploration, with the caveat that we get to see the unfiltered data for ourselves. I'm waiting for someone to land a rover on the Moon that would allow folks to log on and roll across the surface with 3D video. It's coming...eventually.
I am one of the original Trekkies (not Trekkers who cam later). I actually watched the show in first run. My father called it commie propaganda, which it was to a certain extent. I note that Miguel Alcubierre came up with a theoretical warp drive, but it is based on the Einsteinian idiocy that space (a coordinate system) can be bent, compressed and expanded like a physical thing. Until we can purge academia of Einstein and his ilk, we'll never get anywhere fast.
One thing that almost no one talks about is that, if gravity is limited to the speed of light, and light takes 8-1/4 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun, then the planets would be continuously pulled to a point where the Sun used to be. Thus, the planets would quickly fly off into empty space, or crash into the Sun. Therefore, gravity is trillions of times faster than the speed of light. That one point generates all kinds of new technologies unburdened by Einsteinian silliness.
TT - one of these days I will binge The Expanse. So far, I've only made it through half of S01E01, and I liked the spin manoever they did in the meteor shower. Very original thinking.
I have watched all Trek dozens of times, up until Disblubbery and Pick Hard. I just can't stomach the vile degradation that Bad Robot/Secret Treehouse have unleashed on pop culture.
I missed the Giles article, but I will certainly go look it up.
The Expanse was great. So creative and must have had some physicists involved with the writing. Use the robots: maybe in the distance future serious space travel. But I don't see it happening for a number of generations.
DH - one thing the robots would be very good at is mining the Moon and asteroids for raw materials. Launching metal ingots and tanks of air and water from here is ridiculously expensive. Putting our metal friends to work doing the advanced preparations would greatly facilitate human exploration.
I think that's what will be the way to mine anything outside the earth for many years. We can already have robots do huge amounts of work more quickly and efficiently, plus taking humans out of the actual work solves a great many problems.
DH - Not to mention, on an asteroid, just sticking a shovel into the dirt can launch you into orbit, so better to lose a robot, I figure. Plus, robots don't mind being changed down so they don't fly away.
I don't know about you, but standing on an asteroid watching the universe spin around every couple of hours would make me (more) nuts.
I believe it was Russell Means who said, "If you think you are going into space... so you can eat those planets too... then you are living in a TV show because no one's gonna beam you up."
Great observations, most people don’t consider , which you point out, just getting on a rocket and going to mars, or the moon for that matter ,would mean massive interstellar infrastructure that requires technology that if it does exist would never be shared outside of government.
The Moon at least has the advantage of never being more than half a million miles round trip, with communications lagging just 4 seconds. Mars is vastly more complicated.
T. Thomas Brown (among others) demonstrated electro-gravitic propulsion back in the 1950s. Both he and his data disappeared from history. Ditto Maxwell, Tesla, and plenty of others. We could right now have boundless energy supplies the size of a shoebox powering our houses for free, and craft that take us anywhere in the Solar System in minutes, and the vast majority of us would never know.
I am of the opinion that UFOs/UAPs are domestic technology pioneered by the Nazi Bell project. I believe humanity already has the means, but for the purposes of command and control, we are not allowed to have it. At the simplest level, we live on a ball magnet that generates electricity on an unimaginable scale - absolutely free of charge (pun). Why doesn't anyone tell us that (not that I need "experts" and "authorities" to confirm what I can plainly see)?
The one major benefit to humans going to Mars is that, for one brief moment, all of humanity as a species would think big.
Clif High and Steven Greer agree that we already have Zero Point Energy, have for 100 years! But the Khazarian Mafia (fake Jews) in control would lose that control if we could power our homes or cars with a small shoe box! They would no longer be of any importance.
I think, after reading Ingo Swan "Penetration" and "Somebody else is On the MOON" by George H. Leonard, that we can't mine the Moon. The moon is not a natural thing, it was steered into our orbit a long time ago by people who wanted us to have seasons and tides. Clif says it's already inhabited and we have been kicked off several times already. That's why we built the International Space Station instead. So, I think that's why Elon is fixed on Mars.
He may be in for a shock there too,.....it certainly looks like it was inhabited too. For all we know, there is still someone living there too, just underground.
The book that knocked a hole in my head is "Who Built the Moon," by Knight and Butler. If anyone can read that book and not come away with a dazed look on their face, I will check their pulse. It is clearly either purpose-made, or a modified natural object, but in either case (as Isaac Newton said), except that I can see the Moon, it should not exist.
As for ZPE, there is no doubt the tech exists. At the simplest level, the Earth is a giant generator, as Tesla demonstrated. At the cosmic scale, the universe is clearly full of electro-magnetism just waiting to be tapped. There is only one force in the universe, and everything else is a manifestation of it. If you don't know the SAFIRE Project, it is worth looking up.
When all this breaks out in the near future, the fun will really start!
To correct the definitions of opposition and conjunction:
Opposition is the positioning of two planets (or other celestial bodies) on opposite sides of the sun or 180° apart. (i.e. the moon and Earth are at opposition during the new moon phase)
Conjunction is the close positioning of 2 planets within a 0-20° arc.
Laughter is the devil's worst enemy. No matter how crazy things get, we have to keep chuckling at the insanity, or we will go insane. It is gratifying I can pass along a smile.
To prove I am a Ginger Martian on the Martian solar circadian rhythm, I will tell this true story.
I was in my 40s and living in Edmonds, Washington, on the northern border of Seattle. It was a very cold and rainy winter that year. I had no work as a seaplane mechanic and was living on my savings. It rained and rained and rained.
I took to waking up, riding my old Schwinn to Green Lake and back (22 miles), then ordering a pizza, drinking Michelob Light, writing my Brazil memoirs, and going to bed.
Every night, I'd stay up an hour later. I was waking up at noon, then 1 Pm, then 2 PM etc.
I remember one night, I woke up at 1 AM and it was pouring rain. I rode my bicycle to Green Lake and back anyway. There wasn't much traffic, so I came home by going north on Highway 99, Aurora Avenue.
As I rode by the huge old cemetery on the east side of Aurora, there was a skinny brunette prostitute, scantily clad, carrying an umbrella, just standing there. She was young and pretty, too. I just kept riding. But I always wondered how desperate could she be to stand in the pouring cold rain at 3 AM on Aurora Boulevard looking for business.
Anyway, eventually my Martian circadian rhythms got me back to waking up at 6 AM, but it didn't last as I went through the long cycle again that winter, and again, and again. It was crazy.
Great article and very well researched. Kudos! I've always thought the lack of gravity on the long voyage to Mars would doom the mission. Sure, you can have counter-rotating discs for centrifugal gravity, but to simulate Earth's gravity all the way, all the time, for all the crew? And what about if you land on Mars? You are stuck there at less than 1/2 Earth's gravity. This would fuck up human cardiovascular systems big time. Astronauts who spend a year on the ISS say it takes them 2 years back on Earth to recover. It's like a diver going deep into the ocean. You can't stay down there too long or come up too fast.
The big reason is, "Why go to Mars?" The planet has nothing to offer humanity.
I already live on the Martian Day of 24 hours and 40 minutes. I always have. I hate alarm clocks. Left to my own devices, I stay up an hour "later" every night and then day. I've tried it. We do have weak eyes. Do monkeys wear sunglasses?
Being from Mars also explains Rufus' red hair (and my own and my son's.)
Thanks for finding the Rock Hudson TV series of the Martian Chronicles. I've been looking for it for years. Ray Bradbury's book is fantastic. I reread it three years ago.
"We are the Martians now."
Ray Bradbury and Star Trek have been life-long favorites. As a space nerd, I've read every sci-fi novel and watched every film/show from Verne to Bear. I would do almost anything to stand on the rim of Valles Marineris...except give up my entire life right here on Terra Firma.
Humans have always had a profit motive to explore, which makes me think there is something to be gained from a trip to Mars other than altruistic "spreading the seeds". Personally, I believe there is at minimum knowledge of ancient civilizations and possibly ancient technology dangling the carrot.
The late Lloyd Pye made a heck of a case for humans being non-terrestrial in origin. My astrophyics professor back in the mid-80s did too. Everything about human physiology says we are not evolved apes, and that we are well suited for living on Mars. Most of our problems, like back and joint pain comes from being ill-adjusted to Earth gravity.
Fun to think about...
You have convinced me to stay firmly put.
😂🤙🤙
When the trip is whittled down to a week or less, I'm in. Until then, send a dog or monkey or something.
I'm going to go along with Ayya Khema who thought that it was a waste of time to think about such things. It would be best that humanity leaves the rest of the universe alone while we're still unable to do much positive here on this planet. Life expectancies falling, fertility falling, world population falling. It would make a lot more sense to make a plan to eliminate all of the people who want us to go to mars. Seems they're the same people who steal from us reduce our liberties and shorten our lives and reduce our fertility. The existing laws say that it would be justifiable homicide to kill them all, but since they own the governments anybody carrying out these reasonable sentences would likely be bothered by the ones who still survive and the sycophant doofuses who haven't found anything better to do in life than to force us to obey their immoral and illegal rules in exchange for a salary and the promis of a retirement they won't see because their jabs will have them dying before the age of retirement.
I'm inclined to agree with you, but for one point, and that is that things like the famous photo "Earthrise" from Apollo 8 tend to pull humans out of their navels and remind them that there are much bigger perspectives.
Humanity is being engineered by whomever/whatever for a purpose we are not allowed to know. Non-disclosure is itself a crime against humanity, since it deprives us of vital information concerning our present and future.
We, as a species, have a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. We have been so battered and bruised by abusive overlords that many folks actually sympathize with them. Our current technology allows us to have a global symposium on matters like this, but unfortunately, most folks can't or won't see beyond tomorrow's commute to the office.
earthrise was proven to be a hoax a long time ago. Perhaps we are here because the director(s) thought that we needed to get to where we could figure it out while being denied "to know".
Who are you to criticize the directors? And in this case I'm talking about the ones who made everything, not the reptilians who shapeshift under their robes. Talkin' bout the ones who made them and us.
HFM - That's part of what's being hidden from us. I like Lloyd Pye's presentation, "Everything You Know Is Wrong". Sums it all up nice and tidy, but still doesn't answer "who". Joseph Farrell's book, "Cosmic War" is fascinating and offers a concise look at all the mysteries, myths and evidence we have to date. Well worth a read.
As for Earthrise, the image is a single frame from a 16mm film that is genuine, though can't swear to who/what shot it. The image has been enhanced and manipulated so many times over the years that it hardly resembles the original frame.
just going by my faulty memory but I think I saw (when the internet was young) that they'd doctored the shape of the image and that this shape is what makes us think it's an earth rise. So entirely a fraud. I bet that where you live that everybody will eat even as the americans and perhaps the western europeans are eating each other.
Part of the thinking that led me to set up housekeeping here was a year-round growing season and enough seafood to choke a horse. There's also a lot of resourceful folks who still have life skills and adhere to traditional gender roles. The one positive for the West is that all the folks who surrendered these things to political ideology will be gone in 1-2 months, after the bottom falls out.
As for the Earthrise image, the one that most people think of was altered to enhance/add colors, cropped to make the Earth appear larger, and interpolated to clean up grain and make it higher resolution. Yes, it's essentially a fake, since you'd never see that sight in real life. In the original 16mm film, the Earth is quite small. I believe the used a 50mm lens that approximates the huma field of view. Also, the colors are much paler or washed out by overexposure.
NASA has a long history of futzing with images to "enhance" public interest. Mars is actually much like the Arizona desert with a gray sky, not red and ruddy. Neptune is not deep blue. Jupiter's and Saturn's belts are very faint. It goes on and on. Basically, if NASA told you what time it was, you should check you watch to be sure they aren't lying.
nasa is a typical gov't program. A small percentage of the money it steals from fools who think paying taxes is a way to be "tranquil" goes to fake doing what they said, a lot more goes to making sure that the "clever" functionaries who "get it" can greast their own palms and indulge their psychopathies, the 90% which remains goes straight to the high level psychopaths who own all of the world's governments. They are not foolish with their ill gotten gains, they reinvest most of it into making sure that future generations if there are any will be brainwashed enough to continue believing that gov't is good and that they will be "tranquil" if they give all of their money over to the high level psychopaths. But you surely know that and have written that elsewhere.
We are a long way from the widespread non-compliance which is the only way to stop this.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about the Voyager probes, which are still operating beyond our solar system.
I personally have not forgotten the Voyagers. In fact, I noted just recently that NASA shut down yet another suite of instruments on V2 to conserve dwindling power. I've followed the Voyagers for 50 years (including development time), especially the data when passing through the heliopause and into interstellar space. Voyager 1 is also the fastest moving object ever created by humans, at 17km/s, or 38,000 mph. A venerable record, even without the reams of data it has returned. They are amazing craft, and maybe one day humans will pick one up and put it in the Martian Smithsonian.
If every spacegoing device that humans have ever made were as well made as the Voyagers, we'd already be living on Mars.
I'd go further and say if that were the case for all our machines, we wouldn't want to move to the Moon in the first place.
Most of the drive to go to the moon is based on the profits of the MICIMATT complex members that push us into continual wars. It is nothing but extraterrestrial hegemony.
If we can make the Voyagers why can't we have landed on the MOON?
the only successful space endeavor is area 51-secret hollywood sucking machine for the great illusion of USSA superiority. As a hotshot courier spending many hours waiting to deliver materials to NASA space center houston, just a big sucking machine of tax dollars for control of the empire. If youn believe theyput a man a moon I got a bridge to sell to you-a great opportunity to get rich!
MK - I spent many hours at the Manned Space Center (I refuse to use LBJ's name), both as a kid, and later shooting news and documentaries. It is a colossal waste of money, as all gummint projects are.
One perfect example is the SLA launcher. They have shot through billions of dollars for something that is years behind schedule and doesn't work as advertised. SpaceX has done far more, with far less, far faster. That shows the huge gap between private enterprise and bureaucratic make-work.
As for the Apollo program, I'm torn. I've actually had my hand in a glovebox holding moonrocks. I've settled on the opinion that the show we saw was complete bullshit, but something happened that we are not privy to. Part of the proof will eventually come when a private third party lands near an Apollo site and shows us some ground truth. Until then, skepticism is duly applied.
For one thing, heat cannot be exchanged with the environment in a pure vacuum. That's why Thermos works. For another thing, the skin of the LM was essentially a mylar balloon, which I don't buy. Also, the fuel used on the LM was Aerozine 50, which spews highly toxic chemicals in the exhaust.
The jury is still out.
Excellent post about space travel. I recently read an article by a physicist named Giles on Lew Rockwell's site about the many challenges about space travel and colonization of Mars, and anywhere else. Very much like yours, he reviewed the technology we have now will have to be greatly improved to even be vaguely possible. One the the greatest hurdles is the enormous distances involved just to Mars, let alone anything farther. In the Star Trek series by Gene Rodenberry they had overcome this with "Warp Factor 10" technology which allowed ships to travel at gargantuanly faster speeds and "The Expanse" series they had something similar but I don't recall what they called it.
I am always bored when any politician or a dreamer like Musk talks about space travel and Mars colonization. It is good for academics to study and to continue sending unmanned flights out to the expanse and we should certainly do it. But I'm much more concerned about earth-bound problems first and foremost.
Danny Huckabee
DH- I'm all for robotic exploration, with the caveat that we get to see the unfiltered data for ourselves. I'm waiting for someone to land a rover on the Moon that would allow folks to log on and roll across the surface with 3D video. It's coming...eventually.
I am one of the original Trekkies (not Trekkers who cam later). I actually watched the show in first run. My father called it commie propaganda, which it was to a certain extent. I note that Miguel Alcubierre came up with a theoretical warp drive, but it is based on the Einsteinian idiocy that space (a coordinate system) can be bent, compressed and expanded like a physical thing. Until we can purge academia of Einstein and his ilk, we'll never get anywhere fast.
One thing that almost no one talks about is that, if gravity is limited to the speed of light, and light takes 8-1/4 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun, then the planets would be continuously pulled to a point where the Sun used to be. Thus, the planets would quickly fly off into empty space, or crash into the Sun. Therefore, gravity is trillions of times faster than the speed of light. That one point generates all kinds of new technologies unburdened by Einsteinian silliness.
Good stuff! Thanks for the comment.
Danny, I read the article you cite on LRC by Giles. It's a great article. I also watched all the Star Trek shows and Expanse. I miss Expanse.
I agree with you: send the robots into space. Humans should stay on Earth, low Earth orbit, and maybe the Moon for short periods.
TT - one of these days I will binge The Expanse. So far, I've only made it through half of S01E01, and I liked the spin manoever they did in the meteor shower. Very original thinking.
I have watched all Trek dozens of times, up until Disblubbery and Pick Hard. I just can't stomach the vile degradation that Bad Robot/Secret Treehouse have unleashed on pop culture.
I missed the Giles article, but I will certainly go look it up.
The Expanse was great. So creative and must have had some physicists involved with the writing. Use the robots: maybe in the distance future serious space travel. But I don't see it happening for a number of generations.
Danny
DH - one thing the robots would be very good at is mining the Moon and asteroids for raw materials. Launching metal ingots and tanks of air and water from here is ridiculously expensive. Putting our metal friends to work doing the advanced preparations would greatly facilitate human exploration.
I think that's what will be the way to mine anything outside the earth for many years. We can already have robots do huge amounts of work more quickly and efficiently, plus taking humans out of the actual work solves a great many problems.
DH - Not to mention, on an asteroid, just sticking a shovel into the dirt can launch you into orbit, so better to lose a robot, I figure. Plus, robots don't mind being changed down so they don't fly away.
I don't know about you, but standing on an asteroid watching the universe spin around every couple of hours would make me (more) nuts.
I believe it was Russell Means who said, "If you think you are going into space... so you can eat those planets too... then you are living in a TV show because no one's gonna beam you up."
Excellent quote, and nice to hear from you again! Thank you
Always a pleasure! Thank you.
Great observations, most people don’t consider , which you point out, just getting on a rocket and going to mars, or the moon for that matter ,would mean massive interstellar infrastructure that requires technology that if it does exist would never be shared outside of government.
The Moon at least has the advantage of never being more than half a million miles round trip, with communications lagging just 4 seconds. Mars is vastly more complicated.
T. Thomas Brown (among others) demonstrated electro-gravitic propulsion back in the 1950s. Both he and his data disappeared from history. Ditto Maxwell, Tesla, and plenty of others. We could right now have boundless energy supplies the size of a shoebox powering our houses for free, and craft that take us anywhere in the Solar System in minutes, and the vast majority of us would never know.
I am of the opinion that UFOs/UAPs are domestic technology pioneered by the Nazi Bell project. I believe humanity already has the means, but for the purposes of command and control, we are not allowed to have it. At the simplest level, we live on a ball magnet that generates electricity on an unimaginable scale - absolutely free of charge (pun). Why doesn't anyone tell us that (not that I need "experts" and "authorities" to confirm what I can plainly see)?
The one major benefit to humans going to Mars is that, for one brief moment, all of humanity as a species would think big.
Clif High and Steven Greer agree that we already have Zero Point Energy, have for 100 years! But the Khazarian Mafia (fake Jews) in control would lose that control if we could power our homes or cars with a small shoe box! They would no longer be of any importance.
I think, after reading Ingo Swan "Penetration" and "Somebody else is On the MOON" by George H. Leonard, that we can't mine the Moon. The moon is not a natural thing, it was steered into our orbit a long time ago by people who wanted us to have seasons and tides. Clif says it's already inhabited and we have been kicked off several times already. That's why we built the International Space Station instead. So, I think that's why Elon is fixed on Mars.
He may be in for a shock there too,.....it certainly looks like it was inhabited too. For all we know, there is still someone living there too, just underground.
The book that knocked a hole in my head is "Who Built the Moon," by Knight and Butler. If anyone can read that book and not come away with a dazed look on their face, I will check their pulse. It is clearly either purpose-made, or a modified natural object, but in either case (as Isaac Newton said), except that I can see the Moon, it should not exist.
As for ZPE, there is no doubt the tech exists. At the simplest level, the Earth is a giant generator, as Tesla demonstrated. At the cosmic scale, the universe is clearly full of electro-magnetism just waiting to be tapped. There is only one force in the universe, and everything else is a manifestation of it. If you don't know the SAFIRE Project, it is worth looking up.
When all this breaks out in the near future, the fun will really start!
To correct the definitions of opposition and conjunction:
Opposition is the positioning of two planets (or other celestial bodies) on opposite sides of the sun or 180° apart. (i.e. the moon and Earth are at opposition during the new moon phase)
Conjunction is the close positioning of 2 planets within a 0-20° arc.
I missed that question in Astrophysics 101, too. Being left-handed, I always get my gazintas and gazoutas confused. Cheers! I'll fix that.
LOL!! I come here to be cheered up and you never fail me! Thank you!
Laughter is the devil's worst enemy. No matter how crazy things get, we have to keep chuckling at the insanity, or we will go insane. It is gratifying I can pass along a smile.
To prove I am a Ginger Martian on the Martian solar circadian rhythm, I will tell this true story.
I was in my 40s and living in Edmonds, Washington, on the northern border of Seattle. It was a very cold and rainy winter that year. I had no work as a seaplane mechanic and was living on my savings. It rained and rained and rained.
I took to waking up, riding my old Schwinn to Green Lake and back (22 miles), then ordering a pizza, drinking Michelob Light, writing my Brazil memoirs, and going to bed.
Every night, I'd stay up an hour later. I was waking up at noon, then 1 Pm, then 2 PM etc.
I remember one night, I woke up at 1 AM and it was pouring rain. I rode my bicycle to Green Lake and back anyway. There wasn't much traffic, so I came home by going north on Highway 99, Aurora Avenue.
As I rode by the huge old cemetery on the east side of Aurora, there was a skinny brunette prostitute, scantily clad, carrying an umbrella, just standing there. She was young and pretty, too. I just kept riding. But I always wondered how desperate could she be to stand in the pouring cold rain at 3 AM on Aurora Boulevard looking for business.
Anyway, eventually my Martian circadian rhythms got me back to waking up at 6 AM, but it didn't last as I went through the long cycle again that winter, and again, and again. It was crazy.
Your title reminds me of Tim Minchin's song about Gingers. He calls it Prejudice. Here is a link, it's good! Love Tim Minchin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Umw70Yulw
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