Absolutely perfect succinct depiction of the state of the state of Humanity or should we call it Transhumanism. It is and always has been a multilevel conspiracy. Never secret, just in the shadows. Warning after warning was ignored by the masses. Thankfully as anachronisms we no longer need to resist or tell others to resist. The possibility does not exist of defeating the inevitable, only prolonging it, as total control is always the goal of the power seekers. Embrace the SUCK. Welcome to a 'BRAVE, NEW WORLD'- described by Aldous Huxley. "Because information is so accessible and communication instantaneous, there is a diminution of focus on its significance, or even on the definition of what is significant. This dynamic may encourage policymakers to wait for an issue to arise rather than anticipate it, and to regard moments of decision as a series of isolated events rather than part of a historical continuum. When this happens, manipulation of information replaces reflection as the principal policy tool."-
Henry Kissinger, World Order: Reflections on the Character of Nations and the Course of History
When you in a raft shooting 10-foot standing waves and dodging boulders, you rarely think about the shore whizzing past. It's all you can do to keep upright and pointed downstream. The currents of history are best appreciated from a distance, where you can see the ebb and flow with clear perspective.
As you observed, humans can achieve great things through group action. Our groups can be organized in many ways. Large projects require groups with a large membership. A corporation is a way to organize large groups cooperatively. So is a government.
It always puzzles me how anti-corporate diatribes fail to condemn government, which have all the flaws that they criticize in corporations, plus are based on force.
If I don't like a corporation, I don't have to use its services, I don't have to work for it, and I don't have to own its stock. With a government, if I don't obey its rules, pay its fees, and pay its taxes, I will be assaulted or killed. My only option is to try to move to a place with a different government, if they will let me. Then the problem repeats. Corporations are cooperative, governments are coercive.
Any monopoly requires the use of force, thus business monopolies require the support of government. The main problems with corporations arise when they are able to enlist government force. Thus, the problem is ultimately force, not corporations.
Also, the idea of a government or a corporation doing something is a superstition. "The U.S." did this, or "Monsanto" did that is a nonsense statement. All action is undertaken by individual human beings, even when the action is done or supported by many individuals at the same time. In the end, all of us will be judged for our actions.
Hi Joel, welcome to the the Far Side! Government is the original corporation, and the creatures we call corporations are spawns of government. They do not and can not exist without magical symbols printed on paper and mumbled over by the bureaucratic clergy. Without government, corporations do not exist, and without government, corporations can not control and manipulate markets. One is the shadow of the other...i.e. Fascism.
My goal is to flatten the hierarchical pyramid of power and remove government from as many control functions as possible. For instance, trustless contracts eliminate government regulators and civil courts. There's no need for them when enforcement of contracts is built into the contracts. You order a product or service, the payment is held in digital escrow, and payment is automatic when the terms of the agreement are fulfilled.
The implications of DAO are extensive and comprehensive, and they are worth exploring to ensure that we understand the implications, anticipate the pitfalls and use them to effectively replace the System of Force. The potential is there if we are willing "fight the dying of the light".
Hi there, thanks! I'm all about removing as much government as possible. I had to look up DAO. It looks like its system of operation is prior contract and weighted voting. The problem with voting is that the majority can impose its will on a majority. While corporations are chartered under a political jurisdiction, their operation is voluntary. Outside of voting for a board of directors, other operational decisions are cooperative or unanimous. This can not be said of governmental systems or apparently of DAO. All systems and institutions have flaws. Breach of contract disputes can arise under any situation. The DAO structure seems limited in that it would have little flexibility in operational strategy and taking advantage of unexpected opportunity. It does seem to be a good way of structuring achievement of a specific goal.
All good points. I think a DAO is completely voluntary, though. As an owner, you are allowed to vote on projects, but you are not required to participate in them. You would receive coins/shares based on participation and success, but your are not penalized for not working on a project, and you might still receive a share in profits even if you don't work on the project.
I'm not a big fan of democracy, but in collaborative efforts, there is a certain amount implicit in the organizational structure. I'm still investigating DAO structures and looking for existing ones to study their operations. Smart contracts are especially fascinating to me. They seem to work very well on a small scale (selling/buying a product) and payment is guaranteed. However, I have yet to see a model based on something like an EPIC project with dozens of contractors and perhaps thousands of folks working on a single project. I imagine, though, that if these large-scale projects can be done with analog pen and paper, they can be automated in a digital form. If you meet the scope and warranty, then you get paid instantly.
Never have, the house brands being cheaper, and probably made by Kimberly-Clark as well, Kimberly-Clark still being owned by Kimberly-Clark, as best I can tell.
Kimberly-Clark Corporation is a publicly traded company, which means it is owned by its shareholders. These shareholders include individual investors, institutional investors (such as mutual funds, pension funds, and insurance companies), and corporate entities.
Major Institutional Shareholders:
As of the most recent data, the largest shareholders of Kimberly-Clark typically include major investment management firms. Some of the prominent institutional shareholders might include:
The Vanguard Group
BlackRock, Inc.
State Street Corporation
These firms hold significant stakes in the company on behalf of their clients, such as mutual fund investors and pension beneficiaries.
On second thought of my previous comment. Why go down without a fight? Caitlin Johnston- from her recent substack inside the Matrix- "Your votes don’t matter, but your activism does. These freaks are terrified that one day the people will stop playing with the toy steering wheel of voting that they were given to divert their political energy and use the power of their numbers to grab the real steering wheel."-
I've always thought the best way to fight back is to be like the character Henry Tuttle in Terry Gilliams' "Brazil". Operate as a stealth individual, tossing sabot into the works at every opportunity, creating steady pressure on the system, forcing the System to address minutae rather than concentrate on its goals.
I'm not familiar with the 'Brazil' reference. However An old manual 'Total Resistance' by a Swiss Major Hans Van Dach is still viable . The ' progressive' party that took over the democrat party In Accordance with the Cloward-Piven strategy as followed by the Saul Alinsky 'Rules for Radicals' is how the incremental creep eventually replaced all semblance of any 'Constitutional Republic' with this fascist system we presently endure.
Yup, spot on. One of the better novelizations of this method is Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". If you haven't seen "Brazil," get thee to a nunery! It's a must-see, both for visual artistry, and political commentary.
Have you ever looked up the range of products owned by Unilever? How about the holding companies for fast food joints? Competition is an illusion. The regulatory barriers to entry keep most competition at bay, while the buying power and financial resources of conglomerates choke out most other competition. If you get through all that JPMorgan will fund your IPO, and your rivals will just buy you out.
Absolutely perfect succinct depiction of the state of the state of Humanity or should we call it Transhumanism. It is and always has been a multilevel conspiracy. Never secret, just in the shadows. Warning after warning was ignored by the masses. Thankfully as anachronisms we no longer need to resist or tell others to resist. The possibility does not exist of defeating the inevitable, only prolonging it, as total control is always the goal of the power seekers. Embrace the SUCK. Welcome to a 'BRAVE, NEW WORLD'- described by Aldous Huxley. "Because information is so accessible and communication instantaneous, there is a diminution of focus on its significance, or even on the definition of what is significant. This dynamic may encourage policymakers to wait for an issue to arise rather than anticipate it, and to regard moments of decision as a series of isolated events rather than part of a historical continuum. When this happens, manipulation of information replaces reflection as the principal policy tool."-
Henry Kissinger, World Order: Reflections on the Character of Nations and the Course of History
When you in a raft shooting 10-foot standing waves and dodging boulders, you rarely think about the shore whizzing past. It's all you can do to keep upright and pointed downstream. The currents of history are best appreciated from a distance, where you can see the ebb and flow with clear perspective.
As you observed, humans can achieve great things through group action. Our groups can be organized in many ways. Large projects require groups with a large membership. A corporation is a way to organize large groups cooperatively. So is a government.
It always puzzles me how anti-corporate diatribes fail to condemn government, which have all the flaws that they criticize in corporations, plus are based on force.
If I don't like a corporation, I don't have to use its services, I don't have to work for it, and I don't have to own its stock. With a government, if I don't obey its rules, pay its fees, and pay its taxes, I will be assaulted or killed. My only option is to try to move to a place with a different government, if they will let me. Then the problem repeats. Corporations are cooperative, governments are coercive.
Any monopoly requires the use of force, thus business monopolies require the support of government. The main problems with corporations arise when they are able to enlist government force. Thus, the problem is ultimately force, not corporations.
Also, the idea of a government or a corporation doing something is a superstition. "The U.S." did this, or "Monsanto" did that is a nonsense statement. All action is undertaken by individual human beings, even when the action is done or supported by many individuals at the same time. In the end, all of us will be judged for our actions.
Hi Joel, welcome to the the Far Side! Government is the original corporation, and the creatures we call corporations are spawns of government. They do not and can not exist without magical symbols printed on paper and mumbled over by the bureaucratic clergy. Without government, corporations do not exist, and without government, corporations can not control and manipulate markets. One is the shadow of the other...i.e. Fascism.
My goal is to flatten the hierarchical pyramid of power and remove government from as many control functions as possible. For instance, trustless contracts eliminate government regulators and civil courts. There's no need for them when enforcement of contracts is built into the contracts. You order a product or service, the payment is held in digital escrow, and payment is automatic when the terms of the agreement are fulfilled.
The implications of DAO are extensive and comprehensive, and they are worth exploring to ensure that we understand the implications, anticipate the pitfalls and use them to effectively replace the System of Force. The potential is there if we are willing "fight the dying of the light".
Hi there, thanks! I'm all about removing as much government as possible. I had to look up DAO. It looks like its system of operation is prior contract and weighted voting. The problem with voting is that the majority can impose its will on a majority. While corporations are chartered under a political jurisdiction, their operation is voluntary. Outside of voting for a board of directors, other operational decisions are cooperative or unanimous. This can not be said of governmental systems or apparently of DAO. All systems and institutions have flaws. Breach of contract disputes can arise under any situation. The DAO structure seems limited in that it would have little flexibility in operational strategy and taking advantage of unexpected opportunity. It does seem to be a good way of structuring achievement of a specific goal.
All good points. I think a DAO is completely voluntary, though. As an owner, you are allowed to vote on projects, but you are not required to participate in them. You would receive coins/shares based on participation and success, but your are not penalized for not working on a project, and you might still receive a share in profits even if you don't work on the project.
I'm not a big fan of democracy, but in collaborative efforts, there is a certain amount implicit in the organizational structure. I'm still investigating DAO structures and looking for existing ones to study their operations. Smart contracts are especially fascinating to me. They seem to work very well on a small scale (selling/buying a product) and payment is guaranteed. However, I have yet to see a model based on something like an EPIC project with dozens of contractors and perhaps thousands of folks working on a single project. I imagine, though, that if these large-scale projects can be done with analog pen and paper, they can be automated in a digital form. If you meet the scope and warranty, then you get paid instantly.
There cannot be corporations without the we who own them.
Precisely. Have you bought Kleenex lately?
Never have, the house brands being cheaper, and probably made by Kimberly-Clark as well, Kimberly-Clark still being owned by Kimberly-Clark, as best I can tell.
Kimberly-Clark Corporation is a publicly traded company, which means it is owned by its shareholders. These shareholders include individual investors, institutional investors (such as mutual funds, pension funds, and insurance companies), and corporate entities.
Major Institutional Shareholders:
As of the most recent data, the largest shareholders of Kimberly-Clark typically include major investment management firms. Some of the prominent institutional shareholders might include:
The Vanguard Group
BlackRock, Inc.
State Street Corporation
These firms hold significant stakes in the company on behalf of their clients, such as mutual fund investors and pension beneficiaries.
The key word being "might."
On second thought of my previous comment. Why go down without a fight? Caitlin Johnston- from her recent substack inside the Matrix- "Your votes don’t matter, but your activism does. These freaks are terrified that one day the people will stop playing with the toy steering wheel of voting that they were given to divert their political energy and use the power of their numbers to grab the real steering wheel."-
I've always thought the best way to fight back is to be like the character Henry Tuttle in Terry Gilliams' "Brazil". Operate as a stealth individual, tossing sabot into the works at every opportunity, creating steady pressure on the system, forcing the System to address minutae rather than concentrate on its goals.
I'm not familiar with the 'Brazil' reference. However An old manual 'Total Resistance' by a Swiss Major Hans Van Dach is still viable . The ' progressive' party that took over the democrat party In Accordance with the Cloward-Piven strategy as followed by the Saul Alinsky 'Rules for Radicals' is how the incremental creep eventually replaced all semblance of any 'Constitutional Republic' with this fascist system we presently endure.
Yup, spot on. One of the better novelizations of this method is Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". If you haven't seen "Brazil," get thee to a nunery! It's a must-see, both for visual artistry, and political commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZJKd3AqcKg
"Big John" by Jimmy Dean. Link above.
"I owe my soul to the company store."
One of the best and most concise views of the world ever penned.
Company stores are precluded by competition.
Have you ever looked up the range of products owned by Unilever? How about the holding companies for fast food joints? Competition is an illusion. The regulatory barriers to entry keep most competition at bay, while the buying power and financial resources of conglomerates choke out most other competition. If you get through all that JPMorgan will fund your IPO, and your rivals will just buy you out.
Absent a free market, competition is illusory.
"As regulations grow, freedom dies." bumper sticker on the back of my van from the owner of a string of bentonite plants in Wyoming